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	<title>Comments on: Redrawing The Lines For IT</title>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.privatecloud.com/2009/11/04/redrawing-the-lines-for-it/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark (&amp; Chuck), I see exactly where you are coming from with your comments. I work for a service integrator and for a while a number of our guys were forever beating up on me for developing this &#039;Cloud service&#039; that would put them all out of a job.

However as I explained to the guys it is actually the inverse, we tend to deal with medium to large enterprises and they, like most UK businesses are being challenged to adopt new IT consumption models to drive out cost. The difference though between public cloud consumers and medium / large enterprises is that they still want to use the experience of the SI / SP to help them on their journey in to the &#039;trusted&#039; cloud and once there many want to make use of the SI / SP to manage and protect the environment and also to consult on how they can maximise the benefits the flexibility that cloud services provide. Which when done right and in a way that breeds confidence in the SP / SI ability to deliver against the promise of cloud, it actually generates new opportunities that in the present climate are few and far between.

Darren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark (&amp; Chuck), I see exactly where you are coming from with your comments. I work for a service integrator and for a while a number of our guys were forever beating up on me for developing this &#8216;Cloud service&#8217; that would put them all out of a job.</p>
<p>However as I explained to the guys it is actually the inverse, we tend to deal with medium to large enterprises and they, like most UK businesses are being challenged to adopt new IT consumption models to drive out cost. The difference though between public cloud consumers and medium / large enterprises is that they still want to use the experience of the SI / SP to help them on their journey in to the &#8216;trusted&#8217; cloud and once there many want to make use of the SI / SP to manage and protect the environment and also to consult on how they can maximise the benefits the flexibility that cloud services provide. Which when done right and in a way that breeds confidence in the SP / SI ability to deliver against the promise of cloud, it actually generates new opportunities that in the present climate are few and far between.</p>
<p>Darren</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Hollis</title>
		<link>http://www.privatecloud.com/2009/11/04/redrawing-the-lines-for-it/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Hollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -- absolutely.
I get the exact same reaction on occasion, especially with certain audiences.  And -- well -- that&#039;s to be expected, isn&#039;t it?

That being said, I think there&#039;s general agreement that IT will be built, operated and delivered differently in the very near future.  Call it &quot;cloud&quot;, call it whatever.

When dramatic change comes to your neck of the woods, you have two choices: resist it, or embrace it.

On a personal note, I think bright, passionate technology people will always be in demand in our economy.  They might just be doing things differently going forward.

-- Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8212; absolutely.<br />
I get the exact same reaction on occasion, especially with certain audiences.  And &#8212; well &#8212; that&#8217;s to be expected, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>That being said, I think there&#8217;s general agreement that IT will be built, operated and delivered differently in the very near future.  Call it &#8220;cloud&#8221;, call it whatever.</p>
<p>When dramatic change comes to your neck of the woods, you have two choices: resist it, or embrace it.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I think bright, passionate technology people will always be in demand in our economy.  They might just be doing things differently going forward.</p>
<p>&#8211; Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bowker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bowker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the data center folks ESG speaks with are hesitant to embrace the concept of cloud computing and run it up the flag pole for fear that they may be putting themselves out of a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the data center folks ESG speaks with are hesitant to embrace the concept of cloud computing and run it up the flag pole for fear that they may be putting themselves out of a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Hollis</title>
		<link>http://www.privatecloud.com/2009/11/04/redrawing-the-lines-for-it/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Hollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, we should all do what we like.  And if you like building infrastructure, I bet you&#039;re really good at it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, we should all do what we like.  And if you like building infrastructure, I bet you&#8217;re really good at it!</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="506980117">Nicholas Orr</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="506980117">Nicholas Orr</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like the Steve story will play out and maybe people like Steve join these &quot;service&quot; companies because they actually like building infrastructure.

Or as Steve did move into a manager/liaison type role.

If it were me I&#039;d prefer to join the &quot;service&quot; company as I like building infrastructure :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the Steve story will play out and maybe people like Steve join these &#8220;service&#8221; companies because they actually like building infrastructure.</p>
<p>Or as Steve did move into a manager/liaison type role.</p>
<p>If it were me I&#8217;d prefer to join the &#8220;service&#8221; company as I like building infrastructure <img src='http://www.privatecloud.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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